Showing posts with label God. Show all posts
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Wednesday, June 20, 2007

On the Trinity and the Limitations of Logic

An Idea from… Through Western Eyes[1]

Analogies for the Trinity are usually problematic. However, I think it is possible to distinguish two kinds of analogies. The first kind seek to help us to understand the three and the one by comparison with other examples of ‘three-in-oneness’. Examples may be water/ice/gas or mind as composing memory/understanding/well (Augustine). These analogies are usually problematic, because they tend to make us think of the Trinity heretically (e.g. modalistically). I am not going to discuss them any further here. However, there is a second kind of analogy which does not seek to illustrate or explain ‘three-in-oneness’ but seeks to illustrate or explain that it makes sense for the Trinity to escape our full understanding. The doctrine of the Trinity is hard to understand. The first kind of analogy seeks to help us make sense of the doctrine. The second kind seeks to make sense of our lack of understanding. In my view, the second kind is preferable to the first, because the first tends to reduce the Trinity down to our understanding.[2]

What we are talking about here is the limitations of logic. And on this, Robert Letham has some stimulating ideas, using analogies that are more of the second kind than the first. The context is a discussion about the understanding of the Trinity in Eastern Orthodoxy and in the Christianities of Western Europe (Roman Catholicism & Reformed). I have quoted Letham at length, as what he has written speaks for itself. On the basis of his brief discussion in this book, his much lengthier treatment of the Trinity in [source] looks well worth reading.

Towards a resolution of the problems of East and West
Where do we go from here? It is clear that we need simultaneously to preserve both the unity and identity of the one indivisible being of God and, at the same time, the irreducible differences between the three persons. Here Gregory of Nazianzen is brilliantly helpful. In the passage in which Calvin found vast delight he says:

This I give you to share, and to defend all your life, the one Godhead and power, found in the three in unity, and comprising the three separately; not unequal, in substances or natures, neither increased nor diminished by superiorities or inferiorities; in every respect equal, in every respect the same; just as the beauty and the greatness of the heavens is one; the infinite conjunction of three infinite ones, each God when considered in himself; as the Father, so the Son; as the Son so the Holy Spirit; the three one God when contemplated together; each God because consubstantial; one God because of the monarchia. No sooner do I conceive of the one than I am illumined by the splendour of the three; no sooner do I distinguish them than I am carried back to the one. When I think of any of the three I think of him as the whole, and my eyes are filled, and the greater part of what I am thinking escapes me. I cannot grasp the greatness of that one so as to attribute a greater greatness to the rest. When I contemplate the three together, I see but one torch, and cannot divide or measure out the undivided light.

Gregory oscillates back and forth from the one to the three. When he considers the one he is illumined by the splendor of the three. When he distinguishes them he is carried back to the one. Gregory points to the danger of building our doctrine of the trinity on either the one being God in isolation, or on the three persons (or any one of them) in isolation. These dangers are demonstrated thoroughly in the subsequent history of the church.[3]

Gregory’s hermeneutic, as he expresses it in this passage, is strikingly modern. Physicists working at the atomic level oscillate in thought between waves and particles…[4] A parallel to this is the field of gestalt psychology, from which we learn that as we gain a grasp of the whole we tend to lose connection with the parts, while if we focus on the parts we lose our grasp on the whole.

Another way of putting it is to think of what happens when you focus your gaze on a particular object. Try doing it. Notice that when you look intently at this or that, the rest of your field of vision becomes blurred and indistinct. Then if you look away from the object of your former gaze and attend to the background, which now comes into clear focus, your former object of attention becomes a blur.

In this connection, the limitations of logic are apparent. James Loder and the late W. Jim Niedhardt have pointed out…that, while logic is of value in everyday life or in ‘trivialities’ as the call them, when we approach the boundaries of the universe it breaks down. They point to a wide range of areas where creation is not reducible to neat laws of thought. Among other things, physics, mathematics, psychology, and human development all yield this feature[5]… If a reductionist elevation of logic is impermissible in dealing with matters of creation, how much less is it to be followed in relation to the holy trinity? T.F.Torrance[6] insists that the proper course in seeking to know is to submit our minds to the object of knowledge so as to allow it to disclose itself on its own terms. It follows that in science knowledge is to be based on the reality of what is. Logical deductions from premises are good within certain parameters but, if absolutized, can prevent us knowing. In theology, this means we must faithfully submit ourselves to God’s revelation and allow our thoughts to proceed from the basis of who he discloses himself to be, recognizing at the same time that he infinitely transcends the capacities of our minds.

[1] Letham, Robert (2007) Through Western Eyes: Eastern Orthodoxy: a Reformed Perspective (Fearn, Ross-shire: Mentor). Quotes from pp.239-242
[2] Of course, as Mark Heath ably demonstrates, some analogies of the Trinity do not seek to help us understand anything but make us wallow in our incomprehension!!
[3] Letham has argued previously in the chapter that the West has historically begun with the oneness of God, and the East with the Father.
[4] I have omitted Letham’s development of this point, where he gives the example of the double slit experiment.
[5] Letham then gives the example of the Mobius strip
[6] in the foreword to Loder, James E. & Neidhart, W. Jim (1992) The Knight’s Move: The Relational Logic of the Spirit in Theology and Science (Colorado Springs: Helmers & Howard)

Wednesday, March 21, 2007

Penetrating Comments on Isaiah


John Oswalt's commentary on Isaiah is great! Here are two brilliant comments; read and digest carefully:


On Isaiah 5:20-21

Alas for those who say of evil good and of good evil,
setting darkness for light and light for darkness,
setting bitterness for sweetness and sweetness for bitterness.
Alas for those who are wise in their own eyes, and discerning in their own sight.
[translation by Oswalt]

If the ethical imperative is dependent upon human reason alone, that reason is no match for rampant self-interest. In fact, self-interest will press reason into service to justify its own behaviour. Only a prior commitment to the revealed wisdom of God... and a commitment to call good good, despite the reasonings of the wise of this world, can make possible genuine long-lasting righteousness both in individuals and in society. The path of those who chart their own course leads inexorably from self-aggrandizement to the ultimate reversal of moral values.
On Isaiah 8:14-15

For the Lord can be a sanctuary and he can be a stone for tripping over and a rock for stumbling upon for the two houses of Israel; a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Many among them will stumble; they will fall abd be crushed, become ensnared and taken captive.
[translation by Oswalt]

The attitude we take toward God will determine what aspect of him we will experience. To those who sanctify him, who give him a place of importance in their lives, who seek to allow his character to be duplicated in them, he becomes a sanctuary, a place of refuge and peace. But to those who will not give him such a place in their lives, he becomes a stone to trip over. He does not change; only our attitude determines how we experience him. Those who make a place for him discover that he has in fact made a place for them. They know that what happens to them comes from One who is both all-powerful and good. In that certainty they can accept and apply whatever comes to them with equanimity and confidence. Those who will not make a place for him will keep colliding with him and tripping over him, for he is there, whether they acknowledge him or not. Because he is a fact of which their hypothesis does not take account, their experiment will keep failing and he will be the cause of it, not because of some vindictive streak in him, but simply because he is and they are trying to live as if he were not. As the New Testament makes plain, it is in Jesus that the double-edged nature of God's self-revelation because most pointed: to those who accept him as God's sufficient sacrifice, he is life and peace; to those who refuse to do so, he becomes a fact over which to stumble again and again (Matt. 21.44; Luke 2:34; Rom 9:33)

Sunday, January 28, 2007

The need for a deep knowledge of God

I have been studying the early chapters of Isaiah recently (Our current homegroup Bible studies are in Isaiah, as is our assistant pastor’s current sermon series.) I have been particularly struck by the depth of Isaiah’s vision of God – in His self-sufficiency, His sovereignty over all the nations of the world, His awesome purposes in judgment and salvation.

I have been struck by how vital it is that we know God, that we approach in some measure the depth of Isaiah’s own vision. Only a deep knowledge of God will sustain us in whatever trials may lie ahead of us in our lives (as individuals, families and churches). Only a deep knowledge of God will empower us for persevering obedience and service. Only a deep knowledge of God will lift our eyes from ourselves, and give us the desire to see His glory.

This morning our assistant pastor preached on Isaiah 6. Here are some further reflections on knowing God, drawn from Craig’s sermon:

- We need the right kind of knowledge of God; not the kind of me-centred knowledge that superficially acknowledges God but in reality treats Him as someone who can meet our needs, help fulfil our aspirations; someone who can be manipulated. True knowledge of God makes us realise how radically God-centred the universe is, and how radically God-centred we need to be.

- Nor is true knowledge of God a mere knowing about, an intellectualism that finds God a fascinating object of study but is not moved to obedience and godly fear and love.

- But true knowledge of God leads us to recognition of the huge distance between ourselves and Him – not merely the sheer ontological distance between the finite and the infinite, but primarily the moral distance between a pure, holy God and me – polluted, corrupted, disfigured by sin. The six woes of Isaiah 5, denouncing the utter corruption of the people of Judah, are followed by a seventh in Isaiah 6:5. “Woe is me”, declares Isaiah, “for I am a man of unclean lips and I live among a people of unclean lips”

- But that vision of God’s holiness and recognition of our sinfulness then leads in Isaiah’s case to the reality of forgiveness. To know God is to know oneself sinful but forgiven, polluted but cleansed, alienated but reconciled. A knowledge of God without the experience of personal forgiveness is not a true knowledge of God. So whereas the six woes of chapter 5 are interspersed with warnings of God’s certain judgment on their unrepentance, Isaiah’s confession is followed by cleansing: “your guilt is taken away and your sin atoned for.” There is no true knowledge of God that has not come to the Cross.

- Finally, to know God is to be ready to serve Him. To know God in his holiness, and experience his cleansing of our sin-stained lives, is to then be commissioned to live for His glory. A knowledge of God that does not issue in obedience and service is not true knowledge.

Reader! – these things may or may not be familiar to you, but if they are, be refreshed in your desire to know God better; persevere in pursuing God Himself. For we can drift, we can lose our focus; we can become consumed by fears and insecurities. At least I know I can, and have. I have needed a reminder of these vital truths. And perhaps you do too.



Note: Craig’s sermons on Isaiah can be found here. Please note, this is the temporary download page for Beeston Free Church. The sermons on Isaiah are the following files:
20070114am.mp3 (Isaiah 1)
20070121am.mp3 (Isaiah 2)
20070128am.mp3 (Isaiah 6)